Mixed reviews for BBC’s crime drama Shetland

The two-part BBC television drama Shetland began last night and attracted a mixed response from viewers.

Based on the books by Ann Cleeves and starring Dougie Henshall along with isles actors Steven Robertson and Sandra Voe, over six million people tuned in to programme, which concludes tonight at 9pm. More are expected through iPlayer apparently.

Many have commented that the drama showed Shetland’s scenery off in a positive way but that the story lacked a cutting edge. One reviewer mentioned that sub-plots kept cropping up like “fairground ducks” while another was highly critical of the under-use of local accents with even Robertson having to adopt more “Scottish-like” tones.

What do you think? Feel free to comment below or email us at editorial@shetlandtimes.co.uk

57 comments

  1. Vivienne Rendall

    We’ve been visiting Shetland for forty years, looked forward to the programme (I have read and enjoyed all Ann Cleeves” Shetland’ novels, but we felt that the programme lacked authenticity. There were a couple of genuine accents but the rest were all over the place. Apart from one long shot of Bressay much of the scenery, though beautiful, was not familiar. So rather disappointing.

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  2. David Wilson

    I’m not a resident of Shetland (more’s the pity), but as an annual visitor for most of the last twenty-odd years have come to know and love the place like no other. Yet try as I might, I can’t figure out where the bar is outside which one guy got beaten up in the first episode. There seems to be a Masonic lodge next to it, but it looks nothing like the one in Queens Lane. Can anyone enlighten me – or is it just that some of the show was actually filmed elsewhere?

    As for what I thought of the show, I quite liked it in its “Vera” sort of way (I’m from the same part of the world as Ann Cleeves) but it was a bit disjointed, and even I could sense a distinct lack of Shetland accent. But I’ll be watching again tonight, to be sure.

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  3. Grant Bellingham

    We lived on Unst for 2 1/2 years when I was in the RAF. Missed the place and the people terribly. My family had high hopes for the drama. The story is okay but where are the accents from because they are not from the Shetland we know. From what we remember there were alot of very good local actors who would have made the programme feel alot more realistic. Mind you we will still watch it tonight…

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  4. Andrew Bethune

    I haven’t yet visited Shetland (that will happen later this year), but I do know several people from Shetland, and like both Vivienne and David, I felt the accents were mostly from further south. There’s a kind of Glasgowish accent that seems to predominate on Scottish TV dramas, and that’s what came over to me with most of the characters.

    What time of year was the filming done? The drama was supposed to take place in January but there seemed to be an awful lot of daylight about, the grass was greener than I’d expect in winter, the trees and bushes had green leaves on them and there were flowers in some gardens.

    It was an intriguing plot though.

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  5. Steven Roper

    Like a lot of BBC dramas Shetland had a gentle atmospheric feel about it. If it lacked anything it was more of the beautiful coastal scenery the islands are renown for.

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  6. T. Bain

    What a load of old rubbish, I lived in Shetland for 16 years and never once saw Norway on a clear day, has this character got X-Ray vision or what? My Husband worked on Heather Platform and couldn’t see Norway either. For God’s sake there are better waysto promote the the Islands next time try using the Tourist Board…………

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  7. Nic Davies

    If the BBC are going to set a drama in Shetland in January, the least they could have done was to film it in January in Shetland.

    Anyone north of Glasgow knows full well that you don’t get that much light at that time of year. The sun was relatively high in the sky and the days seemed rather endless. People were wishing each other “goodnight” and you could still see the outdoors. Check out the shadows.

    The production team (ITV, what a surprise) appear to have spent any part of January outdoors on Shetland (except clearly the Up Helly Aa), when the days are 6 or 7 hours long and the sun never gets past 12 degrees high.

    I think they missed a trick. Wouldn’t the oppressive half-light at that time of year have added to the dark atmosphere?

    Shame on BBC Scotland for being involved in this deception. We’re watching a detective programme, we notice stuff like this!

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  8. John Fry

    Having spent two summers doing conservation work at various locations on the main island and Unst I couldn’t wait to watch the new drama. It was extremely nostalgic to see the sail loft at Voe where I spent so long and Da Lounge where I spent so much as well as a glimpse of Sumburgh. I think it was a good story but not a great story. I liked the character of Jimmy Perez but the accents spoilt the authenticity of the programme. That said, I think if they had spoken in a true Shetland dialect us South Mouths might have struggled to understand any of it. Shetland was indeed the star and it has made me long to return.

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  9. David Spence

    Whilst I understand many people feel others are “nit-picking” about this show, I thin mr Davies hit the nail squarely on the head – for those of us who are fans of detective/crime shows – we *do* notice every little detail – those are the things that matter.

    I couldn’t care less about the location jumping or that the Lounge had moved to Barrhead or that the accents were generic (none of the main characters were supposed to be local anyway were they?), thats run-of-the-mill for any TV show – it was the awful writing and ignorance of any kind of forensics, forgetting about fingerprints one moment then remembering them the next, etc etc. Thats what ruined the show.

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  10. Allen Fraser

    The most realistic character was Duncan Hunter ‘The Fixer’, the man Perez asked to cancel Up-Helly-Aa. Perhaps we will see a Shetland version of the TV soap ‘River City’ called ‘Muddy Bay’ where the ‘The Fixer’ arranges large grants to relatives from the Shetland Development Trust or ‘manipulates’ votes of Shetland Charitable Trust to pay £millions to a large windfarm development threatening the islands..
    But that would be just too unbelievable…wouldn’t it?

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  11. Vivienne Rendall

    Now I’m adding a further comment. Why did Jimmy Perez called Mainland the main island all the time? And his pronunciation of Lerwick was bizarre-like Berwick-it is not! Our daughter works in Shetland, originally as an archaeologist. Her comment was-‘Why are they doing an archaeological dig in January?’ And just to promote Shetland she now works promoting Shetland’s geology.
    Vivienne Rendall
    Northumberland.

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  12. Andrea Barnes

    I’m not from Shetland and I’m sure it’s a beautiful place (it looked it !) but the drama was far too slow and I did get bored about half way through, tried to watch part two but my brain switched off after 20 mins and so was the TV ! Sorry but bring back Spooks !!

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  13. Joe johnson

    Its always the same in films and television. They never get things 100% accurate. but I thought the programme was ok and it could bring more tourists to the islands this year.

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  14. Christine Graham

    I dont watch a lot of TV mostly because whats on does not appeal to me. But I tuned in on Sunday to watch Shetland.

    And I was not disappointed, I thoroughly enjoyed the 2 part drama. And its a LONG time since I enjoyed anything on British TV.

    It wasn’t perfect I could nitpick about some things. But I understand some things have to be sacrificed in order to fit an entire novel into 2 hours of TV, and that others have to change for artistic licence. But overall it was a very enjoyable drama, and I liked all of the main cast. The location was stunning, the plot interesting and well paced. Interesting relationships all round but I really enjoyed the quirky working relationship of Perez and his young assistant, it made me smile on more than one occasion.

    I really do hope to see more of this. I would definitely tune in if they filmed another of the novels.

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  15. Jennifer Perry

    Wouldn’t it be grand if someone wrote and televised a Drama set in Shetland -a Detective Fictional Drama, well researched, using distinctive local knowledge, people, history, dialect and landscape. A Drama which allowed the unique qualities of Shetland to underpin a thrilling tangle of baffling inter-weaving diabolical events which left us mesmerised and gripped as the story unfolded and we tried desperately to figure out ‘who-done-what’! A story with such a devious plot that it tricked and teased our calculations all the way through; a story with well developed, memorable and distinctive local characters; a story which effectively and imaginatively used documented historical events as hooks on which to attach parallel fictional events; a story which used local geography and weather to create the very special atmospherics of such a deadly scene (where Norway was relocated back to Scandinavia and did not lie twinned with( maybe) Foula, to be spied wistfully when the mist lifts). A story so well acted and directed (with a believable script) that you never wanted the story to end.

    As I said, wouldn’t it be grand if someone wrote and televised a Drama set in Shetland …..

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  16. Oh do stop nit picking, and accept the storey for what it was, well acted, and well told, come on bbc, lets have another six or eight tales like this.
    Well done to every one who contributed to a good two hours entertainment.

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  17. Sandy Milroy

    A bit of a disappointment, I kept being distracted (and annoyed) by poor detailing. I cant believe that the main character apparently a life long Shetlander talked about going to ‘Lerrick’, and the oldest cast member again supposed to be Shetland born and bred talked in pure western isles. A sloppy production.

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  18. Jonathan durham

    Your all a bunch of idiots. Why can’t you take a television show as it is intended. A work of fiction that at least puts some kind of focus on your community. Perhaps unintelligible nit picking would make a terrible 2 hours entertainment. Grow up and get a grip. Shetland in January must represent the devils arse.

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  19. Fenella Pryce

    Never been to Shetland, but got coaching from my husband who worked up there in the 70s. Maybe acents were not correct or time of year not quite right, but it was a mystery to entertain and a bit of escapism from the grim reality of the UKs problems. So please make another few episodes, the more such dramas we have, the more we can espace from depressing news and the never ending stream of cheap reality tv shows.

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  20. John Anderson

    There is a lot of rubbish being talked about accents. Yes, many Shetlanders pronounce it ‘Lerrick’, and there are different accents within Shetland – which would be ‘correct’? Shetland is full of Scots and loads of other nationalities, and Shetlanders understand when to moderate their accents so they are widely understood. We are adaptable, and not stupid enough to put a prime time drama in dialect, even suppose we could raise the cash and air time for it.

    It is more offensive to hear folk mangling our dialect than to have it overlooked. And a drama filmed in all-dialect would not be a realistic picture of Shetland.

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  21. Maggie Williams

    I enjoyed it, shame others didn’t but each to their own :) if they had spoken in Shetland everybody would have moaned that they could not understand what they were saying, so a no win situation really.

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  22. Bit confused as to was it ‘coast’ a ‘subaru advert’ in between falling asleep, or a documentary regarding reception problems for mobiles in northern islands

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  23. Erm, I’m fairly sure I heard “Lerrick/Leh-rick” used quite often when I stayed in Shetland, so for me that was actually one of the few bits I found authentic!

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  24. Shuard Manson

    I didna realise it wis a documentary. I thought it was a work of fiction. Good to see you ir aa bigger pictir Folk!!!!
    I im da surprised dey didna film it in Old Norn.

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  25. ann henderson

    My friends down south were primed to watch it but I wish I hadn’t mentioned it. ‘I thought you said Shetland was a nice place, its looks so miserable’ was the first comment I got back.

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  26. Margaret Mckinnon

    It was more like “Van der Valk” than anything British

    “Everybody on Shetland is related” was the comment by one of the suspects…..

    So does that mean all the oil workers, etc etc were related to these families?

    Could not really see the point of getting all those local people to re-enact the Up Helly Aa – it did not fit in with the storyline !

    And the way the detective and his colleagues just managed to jump on ferries and be in places in matter of minutes and back on the mainland in the same hour or so……. author had not really done her research!

    I think the author based the story in Shetland knowing full well she would sell her books because of the “romance” of the islands………

    I shall certainly not want to watch another series.

    How about the Shetland Tourist Association getting together a proper programme about the history and geography and benefits of Shetland and letting the rest of the UK see what they are missing out on

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  27. ian tinkler

    Much ado about nothing.

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  28. David Short

    I’m posting this comment in a hope it will add balance to the opinions I’ve read so far. I’m English I’m afraid from just North of London, but love everything Scottish. However, I’m no expert on Shetland – and nor will be 95% of the viewers.

    I was able to enjoy the storyline, the acting, the accents and the scenary in all innocence – and enjoy I did! I am sure it will have nothing other than a positive influence on the local tourist industry and ensure (in the Summer at least) even LESS authentic accents than in the programme itself!

    Putting myself in the programme makers shoes, I wonder if the accents were moderated to assist the ‘listenability’ for those viewers without familiarity of the local accent? After all, if viewers switch-off because the diologue is difficult to understand, the experience has been a failure for them. I’m guessing that every tv programme is a compromise to a greater or lesser extent.

    I fully appreciate how lack of authenticity can grate, but please be assured that the vast majority of those watching will have enjoyed; with only positive consequences. From a personal perspective, it has increased my already considerable desire to visit.

    Please be proud.

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  29. Davie Gardner

    There was a very simple film-related reason the programme was NOT shot in January (not including the greater risk of poor weather, delays to filming due to gales, snow etc etc of course) and that was that in July the production team could work and film their allotted 11 hrs per day due to Shetland’s extended daylight hours and not be restricted to a maximum of perhaps 6 hrs per day filming that shooting in Jan – with it’s very short days – would have allowed.

    Nice light (if in fact you got any at all that is) less greenery etc would have been one thing yes – and possibly great in themselves as regards detail and authenticity – but a spiralling budget due to a very large film ‘crew’ literally working ‘half days’ rather than full days (at the same cost) would quite probably have meant it would have been financially impossible to shoot the larger part of it here at all – while remaining within the allocated budget for what was, after all, simply a ‘pilot’ project.

    Sadly I’m afraid there are issues of reality and business behind ALL film projects – especially ones shot in very remote locations – which often don’t allow for things to be done as we ALL might wish them to be.

    I think on balance Shetland got the best of the deal in that respect – with a significant part of it being filmed on location up here as a result.

    I don’t think that many of the 5 – 6 million viewers throughout the UK would have noticed much of the detail mentioned above having never been near the place in the first instance. And perhaps they even got a BETTER ‘view’ of what Shetland looks like and has to offer compared to factual reality i.e. what can often be a pretty grey and drab landscape in winter-time.

    There have also been quite a number of documentaries (both good and bad) made about Shetland – especially in the recent past – but how many of those have achieved viewing figures of 5 – 6 million and been offered ‘prime-time’ BBC 1 slots? Very few indeed I would imagine.

    Sometimes we simply have to suspend reality and take this for what it is – minus the detail. A fictional ‘yarn’ that quite probably did the isles a lot more good than harm.

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  30. Really hope the BBC film some of the other books, I thoroughly enjoyed the two episodes.

    I guess if anyone has written a book on crime in my hometown, Maidstone, and it gets filmed, certain many of the actors will probably sound like they come from Hampshire or Ireland etc but it wouldn’t worry me. It is a fictional tale and it was a real pleasure to watch.

    Very good cast as well.

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  31. Yes, there were lots of things wrong with the programme. Not least because it was an ITV production and while they have caught up with the quality of the look, there are always gaping holes in their screenplays. Continuity can also be peas-poor, but it’s done to a budget so it can be syndicated.

    You know they were never going to have broad Shetland accents, because they’d have to subtitle it everywhere. I don’t like the way they’ve played about with the stories too much, but it happens, even in (reverential silence) Rebus.

    But there were a few too many things wrong and daft about it. The pace, however, was more about introducing the environment and main characters. The original story is set in Whalsay unless I’m very much mistaken, but the wanted to establish that Shetland is an archipelago, something never very well done in Stockholm.

    However, the positioning of the action on Bressay must have been because it is convenient, near the police station and is striking looking. It also establishes there is more than one island other than Big Stone or whatever Henshall was calling it.

    The pace of these new series is always slow to start with and once you’ve been broken in and have an understanding of the scene they tend to expect a degree of knowledge.

    Was it any good? Classic curate’s egg. Good in parts, but they were few and far between and forgiven for the (little) scenery we saw.

    Will it be back? I hope so as no doubt does the SIC and Tourist Board.

    But they will have to do a lot better next time, as I won’t be watching it unless it delivers on all fronts and they tidy up some of those annoying threads.

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  32. Hannah Nelson

    Just shedding a little insight
    Many folk are unhappy about the likes of Perez not speaking with a Shetland accent. Well from someone who as actually read some of the great books written by A.Cleeves you will understand that this is because there is a story to be told and unfold in future episodes, which adds to the mystery of the character….all will become apparent!
    Remember folks, this is fiction and as mentioned earlier not a documentary.

    Ok this is how it works
    The fact is that this was basically a pilot in order to guage interest on a limited budget, once a certain amount of interest is shown then they can throw more funds at it, adding the further quality it deserves. Therefore, think a little before being nagative so quickly.

    This has the potential to do wonders on so many levels, just be patient! ;-)

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  33. sean jamieson

    Scottish accents aren’t homogenous. I’m fed up with ignorant comments in the writings in the Times. The programme was a let down. The story was dull and slow. The reason they referred to the main island and not mainland was because if they said mainland the UK population will think they are talking about mainland Scotland not the “main island” in Shetland. Here’s the rub. This show is for the whole of the UK not just Shetland. In addition they would hope for international sales. This will also be why they stuck with Glaswegian accents throughout. They know people understand them. It is a problem that excludes a lot of accents from Scotland like the Shetland one on tv. They couldn’t use one local accent here and there for continuity reasons.

    All in all a boring who dunnit.

    Ps. I say Lerik. Everyone I know says Lerik and Henshall said Lerik. What was the probs with that.

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  34. Robbie Work

    I was reasonably happy with the story as far as a crime drama goes, since it was very near the end before I realised who the killer was.
    Scenery OK, and will no doubt do wonders for Shetland from a tourist awareness point of view.
    But,from the point of view of an Ex-Shetland resident, the wrong use of locations was absolutely comical. Especially trying to pass off a house (The Punds, if I remember correctly) in South Whiteness as being in Bressay… LOL
    It was well worth a watch and I can’t see it doing any harm since it was ‘just fiction’.

    One point which did annoy me a bit was the title. I would have been happier to see the drama given the same title as the book.. Just in case somebody did think it was a documentary. ;)

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  35. Robbie Work

    PS.. The pronunciation of Lerwick by Perez was just about the only proper Shetland pronunciation in the whole film. ;)

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  36. Davie Gardner

    Well said Hannah

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  37. Sandy McDonald

    It was a tv drama for goodness sake! There are some folk that seem to think it was missing some realism, but that TV for you. Even if every resident of Shetland hated it for its lack of detail that is still only 0.3% of the viewing audience! A figuire I am sure the makers would be happy with. I get the feeling we are like a bunch of airline pilots picking at an airplane disaster movie instead of accepting it for what it is, a bit of escapism. If it had been made totally true to life there would have been no murder and Perez would have spent the 2 hours investigating a collision between a car and a sheep whilst a sub plot involving two drunk 16 year olds fighting carried on in the background.

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  38. Gordon Harmer

    I found it boring and went to bed, I think there are a few others should have done the same. Either that or get a life.

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  39. Ian Tinkler

    Sometimes despair of humanity. V E polarising the Shetland community, school closures, community centres’ going. Cut backs threatening all the poor in our fragile community and people steaming up over a silly TV programme. Does that not say it all? No wonder our politicians are so idiotic, just look at the mentality that did or did not vote for them !!!

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  40. Margaret Mckinnon

    Just find it so amazing that the author was of the opinion that a policeman thought he could stop Up Hella Aa just a few hours before it taking place!

    She obviously is not aware of the hundreds of people that travel from mainland UK (and who would be on their way from Aberdeen by this time!) and those already on the island making their way to Lerwick!

    It would be a bit like the local bobby trying to stop the Notting Hill carnival taking place!

    Had the murders taken place in Lerwick – I don’t think that would have stopped the event taking place!!!!

    I think she should have done a lot more research into the life of the Shetlanders – she presumably thought that life has to stop especially as “everyone is related to everyone on Shetland”……

    It is a shame the story had not been written by a Shetlander…………….with a lot more insight into how life is really lived here.

    I think the author should stick to Tyne and Wear (I believe she lives in Whitley Bay??) and update Catherine Cookson stories instead.

    Still think the Shetland Tourist lot should quickly jump on the bandwagon and produce a factual TV programme about life in the real north…………

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  41. Angela Carswell

    I had a holiday in Shetland for the first time last summer. I really enjoyed the programme, and as some people have pointed out, the story line wasn’t great. But being a “Southerner” it wasn’t spoilt for me by the dialect, as I’m not that familiar with it. However, I mainly watched it for the scenery, and I think it will do the Shetland tourist industry a whole heap of good, as the programme put across the lifestyle and beauty of your wonderful islands. Many of your commentators here are locals or people who are familiar with the isles, but for a foreigner, I think it was lovely.

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  42. Lynda Page

    I must agree with some of the comments but would like to say that as a visitor to Shetland it was worth it to see the scenery and be reminded of the great time we had at Up Helle AA in 2012 and would be happy to sit through any amount of programs to see more, although this was a crime drama it was good to not see unnecessary violence.

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  43. Shelley Johnson

    Some people think that “the author… should have done a lot more research” however i think that pepole should get the facts right before they critisize. I have read all of Anne Cleeves Shetland novels and they are fantastic! Anne Cleeves lived in Shetland for a good few years so she does have a good insight into how life is here. It was not Anne Cleeves that made the TV programme it was ITV/BBC Ann Cleeves wrote the book which the programme was based on. Her book “Red Bones” did not have Up Helly Aa in it and the programme was verry different to the book.
    I also think they called the Shetland Mainland “the main Isle” so people outwith Shetland wouldn’t get confused over mainland Shetland and mainland Scotland. And I think Douglas Henshalls pronounciation of “Lerrick” was spot on :)

    Although the books are so much better I do hope they make a TV series out of it I did enjoy it, though they may do well to take on some of the critisizim.
    I think you would all really enjoy the books!

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  44. David Spence (Lk)

    ‘ This has the potential to do wonders on so many levels, just be patient! ‘

    Well said Hannah.

    It was a tv drama based on the book by an author who adores these islands, and who is a frequent visitor. I would think many people who like her work may also visit the islands to get the inspiration that Ann gets…..one never knows.

    I understand that the viewing figures, as Hannah has stipulated in her comments, were used as a gauge in which to determine whether or not it was worth investing more money and time into a further drama. It could also be used as a means of doing further drama’s based on the books Ann has written. As far as I know the viewing figures were better than expected, so, as they say ‘ Watch this space ‘ .

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  45. Joe Hanson

    The only thing that spoiled it for me was that this was based on the third book of a quartet for some reason. I like Ann Cleves’ books so looked them up. I have no doubt that if the first and second books had been shown first the characters (police) would have been more familiar to us. Because of this, some things niggled me: who was the man Perez’ assistant had been engaged to? Was it the man in the bar who kept calling her Tosh? I picked up an inference that it was …

    I hope they do dramatise more of these books but, please BBC put them in the right order.

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  46. Kerstin Fricke

    I quite enjoyed it as much as the other European crime series (Spiral, Montalbano,The Bridge, The Killing, Singlehanded). I felt it very refreshing to have Scotland via Shetland represented on the map for this genre. Regarding regional authenticity they all have to be taken with a pinch of salt! Does anyone know who wrote the music and if it’s been published?

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  47. Having not seen the TV crime story about shetland, or most proberly never will as I dont own a TV,
    having read all the comments about how good it is or not,
    it can only be good for shetland-free publicity, and if you dont like it, turn your TV off and leave it to the folk who like it.

    Time to get off this subject and onto something else, fishing or crofting would make a interesting read for a change.

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  48. Alan Harris

    Accents were generic Scottish, not Shetland. The plot and production seemed like a cross between Taggart and Wallander. It was ok, not great.

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  49. Julie Quantick

    I thoroughly enjoyed the prog and the beautiful setting – has inspired me so much that I wish to visit, never having been to Shetland before.
    Unfortunately, I missed part of Episode 2 and therefore I am wondering if anybody would be able to send me a recording please please! My e-mail is juliequantick@googlemail.com.
    Thankyou for reading this.

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  50. Mark French

    By way of a belated reply to Kestin about the music to the series, it is apparently by a Scottish composer, John Lunn, who has extensive credits for top TV series http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0526753/

    The playing was hauntingly beautiful I thought. For me, along with the landscapes it was about the best thing about the show.

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  51. Bernard Green

    I do hope that when the new series airs this evening that Douglas Henshall, an otherwise fine actor, will at least sound as though he comes from somewhere near Lerwick.

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  52. Philip John

    Have just finished watching Shetland and must say I thoroughly enjoyed all six episodes. Never having been to Shetland, or anywhere near it, I’m not as hung up about genuine accents as seems to be the main gripe of most posts before mine. I must remark that the format for Shetland to be almost a carbon copy of “Hinterland”, again another totally captivating programme about policing around rural Aberystwyth. Both programmes thoroughly deserve to have follow up series made and I thought the acting in both to be first class.

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  53. Philip John

    Only just realized that the six programmes I have seen IS the second series. DOH! Still, if I can find the Red Bones episodes, I’ve got another two hours of a great show to see.

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  54. Peter Mannell

    So desperately, pathetically boring we gave up watching after half an hour.
    2 episodes, 2 hours – NO WAY!!!!

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  55. Kathy Greaves

    So, who did kill Peter Latimer, and why?

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    • Brian Smith

      Dalhousie of Housabister.

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    • Johan Adamson

      Is he deid? Guid juist keep me.

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